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== Season Notes ==
 
== Season Notes ==
 
My assumption is that there were more games played than reported.  Gaps in the calendar suggest that games could have been played.  There are several reports in the newspapers that a Double Header was to be played, with no results shown.  In early October The Tennessean reports that "The Elite Giants which recently met and defeated the Miami baseball team in a series last week will close the season at Wilson park Sunday with games against the Nashville Tigers. ([https://www.newspapers.com/clip/68546506/1929-1929oct06-elite-giants-take/ source]).  The specific results of the series with the Miami Giants have not been found.  It is not known if the series against the Nashville Tigers ever came to take place.
 
My assumption is that there were more games played than reported.  Gaps in the calendar suggest that games could have been played.  There are several reports in the newspapers that a Double Header was to be played, with no results shown.  In early October The Tennessean reports that "The Elite Giants which recently met and defeated the Miami baseball team in a series last week will close the season at Wilson park Sunday with games against the Nashville Tigers. ([https://www.newspapers.com/clip/68546506/1929-1929oct06-elite-giants-take/ source]).  The specific results of the series with the Miami Giants have not been found.  It is not known if the series against the Nashville Tigers ever came to take place.
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== Winning Percentages ==
 
== Winning Percentages ==

Revision as of 15:12, 4 February 2021

Overview

The 1929 Nashville Elite Giants, under the leadership of owner Tom T. Wilson, were a fixture in Negro League baseball that season. In January it was reported that they would be transferred to one of the cities holding a franchise in the Oklahoma, Texas and Louisiana League (source). That did not come to pass. They began spring training in early April, playing against Fisk University. At that time the Negro Southern League was not yet formed. That would happen in mid-April (source). Nashville would be a member of the NSL and an associate member of the Negro National League (source).

Teams of the 1929 Negro Southern League

  • Nashville
  • Evansville
  • Atlanta
  • Louisville
  • Chattanooga
  • New Orleans

Teams of the 1929 Negro National League

1929 Nashville Elite Giants Players

1929 Season and Schedule

Date Opponent Location (City) Park Opp. League NSL W NSL L NSL T IND W IND L IND T NNL W NNL L NNL T Runs Opp. Runs Notes Source
Sat, Apr 20, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Memphis, TN
NNL
L
1
8
 box score The Indianapolis Recorder,
Sat, Apr 27, 1929
Sun, Apr 21, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Memphis, TN
NNL
T
1
1
 10 innings called on account of darkness, box score The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Apr 27, 1929
Sun, Apr 28, 1929 Evansville Reichet Giants Nashville, TN Sulphur Dell
NSL
L
3
4
 DH – 11 inning game, box score Nashville Banner,
Mon, Apr 29, 1929
Sun, Apr 28, 1929 Evansville Reichet Giants Nashville, TN Sulphur Dell
NSL
T
1
1
 DH - Called for darkness after 7 innings Nashville Banner,
Mon, Apr 29, 1929
Mon, Apr 29, 1929 Evansville Reichet Giants Nashville, TN
NSL
W
6
2
 The Tennessean,
Tue, Apr 30, 1929
Sat, May 4, 1929 Birmingham Black Barons Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
W
3
0
 Opening of Wilson Park Nashville Banner,
Sun, May 5, 1929
Sun, May 5, 1929 Birmingham Black Barons Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
L
6
8
 14 innings, box score The Tennessean,
Mon, May 6, 1929
Mon, May 6, 1929 Birmingham Black Barons Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
L
2
3
 The Tennessean,
Wed, May 8, 1929
Sat, May 11, 1929 Cuban Stars West Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
L
0
7
 The Tennessean,
Sun, May 12, 1929
Sun, May 12, 1929 Cuban Stars West Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
W
7
4
 DH The Tennessean,
Mon, May 13, 1929
Sun, May 12, 1929 Cuban Stars West Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
T
3
3
 DH - Called for darkness after 7 innings The Tennessean,
Mon, May 13, 1929
Mon, May 13, 1929 Cuban Stars West Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
W
 no score provided Nashville Banner,
Wed, May 15, 1929
Sat, May 18, 1929 Kansas City Monarchs Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
L
4
12
 box score The Chicago Defender,
Sat, May 25, 1929
Sun, May 19, 1929 Kansas City Monarchs Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
L
2
8
 DH scheduled, box score The Tennessean,
Mon, May 20, 1929
Mon, May 20, 1929 Kansas City Monarchs Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
L
1
10
 The Tennessean,
Tue, May 21, 1929
Mon, Jun 3, 1929 Evansville Reichet Giants Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NSL
L
6
8
 The Tennessean,
Tue, Jun 4, 1929
Sun, Jun 9, 1929 Evansville Reichet Giants Evansville, IN Bosse Field
NSL
W
3
2
 DH, box score The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jun 15, 1929
Sun, Jun 9, 1929 Evansville Reichet Giants Evansville, IN Bosse Field
NSL
W
5
1
 DH – 5 innings The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jun 15, 1929
Mon, Jun 10, 1929 Evansville Reichet Giants Evansville, IN Bosse Field
NSL
W
18
4
 3rd game in series The Evansville Press,
Tue, Jun 11, 1929
Sat, Jun 15, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
W
4
3
 The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jun 22, 1929
Sun, Jun 16, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
L
1
2
 11 inning game, box score The Tennessean,
Mon, Jun 17, 1929
Sun, Jun 16, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
T
0
0
 7 innings called on account of darkness The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jun 22, 1929
Mon, Jun 17, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
W
10
5
 The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jun 22, 1929
Tue, Jun 18, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
W
7
3
 The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jun 22, 1929
Fri, Jun 21, 1929 Louisville Black Caps Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NSL
W
5
3
 The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jun 29, 1929
Sat, Jun 22, 1929 Louisville Black Caps Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NSL
W
4
2
 The Tennessean,
Sun, Jun 23, 1929
Sun, Jun 23, 1929 Louisville Black Caps Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NSL
W
3
2
 DH, box score The Tennessean,
Mon, Jun 24, 1929
Sun, Jun 23, 1929 Louisville Black Caps Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NSL
L
4
5
 DH – 7 innings The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jun 29, 1929
Mon, Jun 24, 1929 Louisville Black Caps Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NSL
W
12
6
 The Tennessean,
Tue, Jun 25, 1929
Thu, Jul 4, 1929 Chicago American Giants Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
W
10
4
 DH, box score Nashville Banner,
Fri, Jul 5, 1929
Thu, Jul 4, 1929 Chicago American Giants Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
W
2
1
 DH – 7 innings, box score Nashville Banner,
Fri, Jul 5, 1929
Sat, Jul 6, 1929 Chicago American Giants Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
W
10
8
 The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jul 13, 1929
Sun, Jul 7, 1929 Chicago American Giants Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
W
9
8
 DH The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jul 13, 1929
Sun, Jul 7, 1929 Chicago American Giants Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
W
11
0
 CAG asked the game be called in the 5th inning The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jul 13, 1929
Sat, Jul 13, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Memphis, TN Lewis Park
NNL
L
4
10
 box score The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jul 20, 1929
Sun, Jul 14, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Memphis, TN Lewis Park
NNL
W
5
3
 box score The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jul 20, 1929
Sun, Jul 14, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Memphis, TN Lewis Park
NNL
L
1
3
 7 innings The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jul 20, 1929
Mon, Jul 15, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Memphis, TN Lewis Park
NNL
L
5
11
 The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Jul 20, 1929
Sat, Jul 20, 1929 St. Louis Stars St. Louis, MO Stars’ Park
NNL
W
11
9
 box score St. Louis Post-Dispatch,
Sun, Jul 21, 1929
Sun, Jul 28, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
L
3
13
 Nashville Banner,
Mon, Jul 29, 1929
Sun, Jul 28, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
L
0
6
 7 innings Nashville Banner,
Mon, Jul 29, 1929
Mon, Jul 29, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
L
1
2
 The Tennessean,
Tue, Jul 30, 1929
Tue, Jul 30, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
T
9
9
 called on account of darkness in the 10th The Tennessean,
Wed, Jul 31, 1929
Fri, Aug 2, 1929 Birmingham Black Barons Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
T
7
7
 10 innings The Birmingham News,
Sat, Aug 3, 1929
Sat, Aug 3, 1929 Birmingham Black Barons Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
W
2
0
 The Birmingham News,
Sun, Aug 4, 1929
Sun, Aug 4, 1929 Birmingham Black Barons Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
L
3
4
 box score The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Aug 10, 1929
Sun, Aug 11, 1929 Chicago American Giants Chicago, IL
NNL
L
0
3
 DH The Tennessean,
Mon, Aug 12, 1929
Sun, Aug 11, 1929 Chicago American Giants Chicago, IL
NNL
L
0
9
 DH The Tennessean,
Mon, Aug 12, 1929
Wed, Aug 14, 1929 Grasselli Giants Munster, IN
IND
L
3
5
 box score The Times,
Thu, Aug 15, 1929
Sat, Aug 17, 1929 Indianapolis Lincoln Highways Nashville, TN Wilson Park
IND
L
12
17
 Newspaper calls them “ABCs”, box score The Tennessean,
Sun, Aug 18, 1929
Sun, Aug 18, 1929 Indianapolis Lincoln Highways Nashville, TN Wilson Park
IND
L
5
7
 DH, box score The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Aug 24, 1929
Sun, Aug 18, 1929 Indianapolis Lincoln Highways Nashville, TN Wilson Park
IND
W
3
2
 DH The Chicago Defender,
Sat, Aug 24, 1929
Sat, Sep 7, 1929 Birmingham Black Barons Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
0
0
 Rain halted game in the 4th inning The Tennessean,
Sun, Sep. 8, 1929
Sat, Sep 14, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
L
 no score provided The Tennessean,
Sun, Sep 15, 1929
Sun, Sep 15, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
W
5
0
 The Tennessean,
Mon, Sep 16, 1929
Sun, Sep 15, 1929 Memphis Red Sox Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
W
3
2
 7 innings The Tennessean,
Mon, Sep 16, 1929
Sat, Sep 21, 1929 Cuban Stars West Nashville, TN Wilson Park
NNL
L
1
3
 The Tennessean,
Sun, Sep 22, 1929

Season Notes

My assumption is that there were more games played than reported. Gaps in the calendar suggest that games could have been played. There are several reports in the newspapers that a Double Header was to be played, with no results shown. In early October The Tennessean reports that "The Elite Giants which recently met and defeated the Miami baseball team in a series last week will close the season at Wilson park Sunday with games against the Nashville Tigers. (source). The specific results of the series with the Miami Giants have not been found. It is not known if the series against the Nashville Tigers ever came to take place.

Winning Percentages

Organized by League

W L T Total
Games 		Percent
NSL
8
3
1
12
.708
IND
1
3
0
4
.250
NNL
16
19
5
40
.463
Total Games
25
25
6
56
.500

Organized by Negro National League Team

W L T Total
Games 		 %
St. Louis Stars
1
0
0
1
1.000
Chicago American Giants
5
2
0
7
.714
Cuban Stars West
2
2
1
5
.500
Memphis Red Sox
6
9
3
18
.417
Birmingham Black Barons
2
3
1
6
.417
Kansas City Monarchs
0
3
0
3
.000
Detroit Stars
0
0
0
0
N/A

References / Resources

Credit

This page was assembled and presented by Mark D. Aubrey.

Please see Copyright info.

Overview

Early base ball games (1867-68) involving the Holston Base Ball Club of Knoxville, Tennessee.


1867

Match Date Reported Club Club Notes
May 4, 1867 May 8, 1867 - Brownlow's Knoxville Whig (article link) Holstons L Knoxville W
May 11, 1867 May 15, 1867 - Brownlow's Knoxville Whig (article link) Holstons W Knoxville L
May 20, 1867 - Memphis Daily Post (article link) Holstons 45 Mountain City (Chattanooga) 86
July 4, 1867 July 6, 1867 - Knoxville Daily Free Press (article link) Holstons 65 Emmett 12 Game closed after 5 innings
Sep. 3, 1867 Sep. 5, 1867 - Knoxville Daily Free Press (article link) Holstons 50 Mountain City (Chattanooga) 79 1st game of championship of the state series.
Sep. 13/14, 1867 Sep. 18, 1867 - Brownlow's Knoxville Whig (article link) Holstons 52 Mountain City (Chattanooga) 31 2nd game of championship of the state series.
Sep. 21, 1867 Sep. 25, 1867 - Brownlow's Knoxville Whig (article link) Holstons W Mountain City (Chattanooga) L 3rd game of championship of the state series. Game played in Athens.
Nov. 6, 1867 Nov. 7, 1867 - Knoxville Daily Herald - (article link) Holstons 90 Knoxville 25 2nd day of Knoxville Base Ball Tournament
Nov. 28, 1867 Nov. 30, 1867 - Knoxville Daily Herald (article link) Holstons 18 Gate City (Atlanta) 21 Also reported on Dec. 4, 1867 in Brownlow's Knoxville Whig (article link)
Dec. 7, 1867 Dec 8, 1867 - Knoxville Daily Herald (article link) Holstons (2nd 9) 34 Knoxville 14 "Only five innings were played."

1868

Match Date Reported Club Club Notes
Aug. 25, 1868 Aug. 26, 1868 - Daily Press and Herald (article link) Holstons 14 Picked Field (Picked Nine) 15 Game stopped on account of rain at end of 3rd inning.
Aug. 29, 1868 Aug. 30, 1868 - Daily Press and Herald (article link) Holstons 44 Picked Nine (Picked Field) 10 Seven innings played.
Sept. 3, 1868 Sep. 4, 1868 - Daily Press and Herald (article link) Holstons 26 Cumberland (Jr. Club) 32 also reported on Sep. 10, 1868 in Knoxville Press and Messenger (article link)
Sep. 12, 1868 Sep. 13, 1868 The Tennessean (article link) Holstons 10 Nashville 34 1st game for Championship of the State.
Sep. 24, 1868 Sep. 25, 1868 - Daily Press and Herald (article link) Holstons 30 Nashville 29 2nd game for Championship of the State. Also reported on Oct. 1, 1868 in Knoxville Press and Messenger (article link)
Oct. 9, 1868 Oct. 11, 1868 - Daily Press and Herald (article link) Holstons 18 Nashville 21 3rd game for Championship of the State.

References / Resources

  • various newspapers at Newspapers.com
  • Christopher Ryland's early base ball blog Three Hands Dead
  • Holston Club of Knoxville at Protoball.org
  • Allen, Ronald R. Same Old Smokies: A brief history of baseball in Knoxville, Tennessee, 1865-1954, self published, 2008

Credit

This page was researched by Dr. William Hardy and Mark D. Aubrey. Formatted and presented by Mark D. Aubrey.

Please see Copyright info.

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